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		<title>By: Im4theUSA</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Im4theUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You marry someone you admire - admiration is looking up to someone.  Looking up to someone is the same as marrying up.  
When Ann Romney says that Mitt listens to women she is speaking in general and this is an age thing.  Women her age went through the movement for women and know that there were always a percentage of men that dismissed women and she is saying that is not true about her husband.  That is all she meant - I expect that her speech had more meaning for those of her generation and older not the  younger generation.  I can assure you that she did not mean to patronize women in any way.  

On another note I do not see how you can be a real feminist if you need the government to take care of you and do not look at yourself as an individual responsible for yourself - in my opinion liberals have traded the concept of needing a man for needing the government in place of a man.  There is still that word &quot;need&quot; which is what I thought we broke away from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You marry someone you admire &#8211; admiration is looking up to someone.  Looking up to someone is the same as marrying up.<br />
When Ann Romney says that Mitt listens to women she is speaking in general and this is an age thing.  Women her age went through the movement for women and know that there were always a percentage of men that dismissed women and she is saying that is not true about her husband.  That is all she meant &#8211; I expect that her speech had more meaning for those of her generation and older not the  younger generation.  I can assure you that she did not mean to patronize women in any way.  </p>
<p>On another note I do not see how you can be a real feminist if you need the government to take care of you and do not look at yourself as an individual responsible for yourself &#8211; in my opinion liberals have traded the concept of needing a man for needing the government in place of a man.  There is still that word &#8220;need&#8221; which is what I thought we broke away from.</p>
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		<title>By: Im4theUSA</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Im4theUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you are looking at this correctly - When someone loves someone they always look up to them regardless of sex. It might be an age thing as I consider myself a feminist (but not the way libs look at it). I felt that I married up and my husband also feels the same way - I do not see the insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you are looking at this correctly &#8211; When someone loves someone they always look up to them regardless of sex. It might be an age thing as I consider myself a feminist (but not the way libs look at it). I felt that I married up and my husband also feels the same way &#8211; I do not see the insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric (Shepherd) Mao</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric (Shepherd) Mao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

No problem. Also, good question!

My wife is a liberal and proudly calls herself and her friends progressives. I am a libertarian and the only person in her cirle who is not a liberal. It&#039;s counter-intuitive, but that is not a problem at all. I joke a lot about politics with her and her friends when she is around. For example, she is PC, so I make un-PC jokes and comments to get a rise out of her or embarrass her for fun. Even when we occasionally get into a debate, it is brief because I don&#039;t believe I can persuade her and she doesn&#039;t like to debate. I feel I have to joke with her so I can lessen my urge to debate her. I guess I see her strengths and overlook this shortcoming, and she does the sam with me and, over time, we don&#039;t see this as an issue at all.

In general, what&#039;s important to me is not whether someone has the same political views that I have, but rather whether that person&#039;s attitute toward politics is similar to mine. My attitude is that I don&#039;t take it seriously all the time, and I try not to get angry with people with opposite views; further, I&#039;m curious about differing views, especially opposite ones. When I&#039;m with someone with opposite views, I feel it is more important for me to learn where they are coming from. The best way to do that is let them talk and ask questions but not push too hard. I do that with my wife when she is in a mood to talk. I figure I can&#039;t know exactly what to refute in the book I&#039;m planning to write if I don&#039;t hear from the liberals first hand.

Moreover, my wife and I can mock conservatives Republicans together. There is one thing in politics we can agree on after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>No problem. Also, good question!</p>
<p>My wife is a liberal and proudly calls herself and her friends progressives. I am a libertarian and the only person in her cirle who is not a liberal. It&#8217;s counter-intuitive, but that is not a problem at all. I joke a lot about politics with her and her friends when she is around. For example, she is PC, so I make un-PC jokes and comments to get a rise out of her or embarrass her for fun. Even when we occasionally get into a debate, it is brief because I don&#8217;t believe I can persuade her and she doesn&#8217;t like to debate. I feel I have to joke with her so I can lessen my urge to debate her. I guess I see her strengths and overlook this shortcoming, and she does the sam with me and, over time, we don&#8217;t see this as an issue at all.</p>
<p>In general, what&#8217;s important to me is not whether someone has the same political views that I have, but rather whether that person&#8217;s attitute toward politics is similar to mine. My attitude is that I don&#8217;t take it seriously all the time, and I try not to get angry with people with opposite views; further, I&#8217;m curious about differing views, especially opposite ones. When I&#8217;m with someone with opposite views, I feel it is more important for me to learn where they are coming from. The best way to do that is let them talk and ask questions but not push too hard. I do that with my wife when she is in a mood to talk. I figure I can&#8217;t know exactly what to refute in the book I&#8217;m planning to write if I don&#8217;t hear from the liberals first hand.</p>
<p>Moreover, my wife and I can mock conservatives Republicans together. There is one thing in politics we can agree on after all.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bryan</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,
Sorry in advance for both a cross-post and a thread-hijack.

You stated: &quot;Mitt Romney and I have one thing in common: We both listen to women and our wives--at least Ann Romney claims he does.&quot;

Question setup: My wife is Republican and I am Libertarian. However, I can live with her, since we are both socially moderate (of different degrees) and fiscally conservative. When we disagree, it is not over facts, but usually about the proper solution to a problem.
Almost without exception, when a liberal talks or posts, their argument is always non-factual or contains one or more logical fallacies. In my opinion, they are not capable of presenting a logically defensible position (else they would stop being liberal).

I&#039;m curious, (even though it is none of my business) how is it possible to live with someone who is a liberal (without being one yourself)? I can see no true resolution to any political argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
Sorry in advance for both a cross-post and a thread-hijack.</p>
<p>You stated: &#8220;Mitt Romney and I have one thing in common: We both listen to women and our wives&#8211;at least Ann Romney claims he does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Question setup: My wife is Republican and I am Libertarian. However, I can live with her, since we are both socially moderate (of different degrees) and fiscally conservative. When we disagree, it is not over facts, but usually about the proper solution to a problem.<br />
Almost without exception, when a liberal talks or posts, their argument is always non-factual or contains one or more logical fallacies. In my opinion, they are not capable of presenting a logically defensible position (else they would stop being liberal).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, (even though it is none of my business) how is it possible to live with someone who is a liberal (without being one yourself)? I can see no true resolution to any political argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Quinones</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Quinones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 03:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is good woman behind a succesful man&quot;. How many times we hear that frase in our lifetime?. We never hear it the other way around.and I see no reason why we shouldn&#039;t. Even if they stay home, like in my wife (R.I.P.) case, it was not easy for  her  to deal with a husband and five kids  but she knew she had a man behind her. Today,  women are a different breed of succesful human beings with their own ideas and goals. Why not patronize her if she wants to be First Lady?. Why not President? Why not stay  behind her and help her realize their dreams? As civilized people, we still can hold the door open for her, be kind to her even if some male chauvinist does not agree. That has nothing to do with patronizing her.  No matter how high she climbs the ladder of success, they always look for a man for support.  Let be realistic, the game is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is good woman behind a succesful man&#8221;. How many times we hear that frase in our lifetime?. We never hear it the other way around.and I see no reason why we shouldn&#8217;t. Even if they stay home, like in my wife (R.I.P.) case, it was not easy for  her  to deal with a husband and five kids  but she knew she had a man behind her. Today,  women are a different breed of succesful human beings with their own ideas and goals. Why not patronize her if she wants to be First Lady?. Why not President? Why not stay  behind her and help her realize their dreams? As civilized people, we still can hold the door open for her, be kind to her even if some male chauvinist does not agree. That has nothing to do with patronizing her.  No matter how high she climbs the ladder of success, they always look for a man for support.  Let be realistic, the game is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROTFL indeed. Now that is humour. Not the kind of thing the kids are into these days, to be honest, but good old fashioned humour, I can&#039;t lie. Fucking Women, eh fellas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROTFL indeed. Now that is humour. Not the kind of thing the kids are into these days, to be honest, but good old fashioned humour, I can&#8217;t lie. Fucking Women, eh fellas?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric (Shepherdmao) Mao</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric (Shepherdmao) Mao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alvin,

I told Sue about your comment and she noticed that I don&#039;t open the car door for her anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvin,</p>
<p>I told Sue about your comment and she noticed that I don&#8217;t open the car door for her anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin Sylvain</title>
		<link>http://shepherdmao.com/article/age-of-patronization/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin Sylvain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about men and women and patronizing and PC and what used to be called Gentlemanly Conduct (common courtesy), I&#039;m suddenly reminded of the advertising for the new movie, &quot;Think like a Man, Act like a Lady&quot;, based on Steve Harvey&#039;s book of the same title.

In case you haven&#039;t seen it --

The guy picks up his date at the door, and heads for the car. He whips out his key-fob and &quot;chirps&quot; the lock. He says, &quot;It&#039;s unlocked,&quot; and goes around to get in the driver&#039;s side.

The woman stands there and says, &quot;I don&#039;t get in a car if a gentleman doesn&#039;t open the door!&quot;

The guy peers out the window and says, &quot;You serious?&quot; She says, &quot;Yes!&quot;

He drives off.

OH that was a ROTFL moment! He comes back immediately and says, &quot;Just kidding&quot;, but it&#039;s still funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about men and women and patronizing and PC and what used to be called Gentlemanly Conduct (common courtesy), I&#8217;m suddenly reminded of the advertising for the new movie, &#8220;Think like a Man, Act like a Lady&#8221;, based on Steve Harvey&#8217;s book of the same title.</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t seen it &#8211;</p>
<p>The guy picks up his date at the door, and heads for the car. He whips out his key-fob and &#8220;chirps&#8221; the lock. He says, &#8220;It&#8217;s unlocked,&#8221; and goes around to get in the driver&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>The woman stands there and says, &#8220;I don&#8217;t get in a car if a gentleman doesn&#8217;t open the door!&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy peers out the window and says, &#8220;You serious?&#8221; She says, &#8220;Yes!&#8221;</p>
<p>He drives off.</p>
<p>OH that was a ROTFL moment! He comes back immediately and says, &#8220;Just kidding&#8221;, but it&#8217;s still funny.</p>
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